Fifth-wheel and motorhome specifics
Fifth wheels level off the landing gear and have to find the hitch again. Motorhomes level through interlocks that keep the coach from driving off on its jacks. Know both sets of rules and most 'won't turn on' and 'alarm on the road' calls go quick.
The short version
- Ground Control: pin the landing gear inner legs 4 to 5 in above the ground before 'Drop front jacks'. Level Up's hydraulic landing gear runs on the Front button.
- Start auto level with the front above level, or hitch recognition has no height to return to.
- Motorhome systems want the park brake set and the ignition in run, and Lippert also wants the engine running.
- A jacks down alarm on the road means retract pressure dropped. Stop, set the brake, look for leaks, press Retract.
- Never lift wheels off the ground, and never hold the coach up on its jacks for tire work.
Fifth-wheel front ends
Ground Control 3.0 landing gear are Hall effect legs with 19.8125 in of stroke and pinned inner legs. Chock the tires, pull the pins and set both inner legs 4 to 5 in above the ground. 'Drop front jacks' brings both legs down to the ground and stops, then Front lifts the pin box off the hitch.
Level Up uses 14K aluminum hydraulic landing gear, with the landing gear valve on the lead leg on a 4-point. In auto it drops the front below level, lifts back to level, levels side to side on the rear jacks, then extends the landing gear again to finish. Lippert's aftermarket manual calls for 12 in of ground clearance at the landing gear.
Ground Control TT uses a power tongue jack at the front instead, and it can't be moved on its own in manual mode.
Hitch recognition and auto retract
Both fifth-wheel systems remember the front height from the start of the last auto level. That only works if the front was above level when auto level started; otherwise the pad shows 'Feature disabled'.
- Ground Control 3.0: 'Auto reconnect' from the menu. Rear and middle jacks retract first, then the front goes to the saved height. The Linc remote has no hitch recognition.
- Level Up: press Left and Right together to raise to hitch height, hitch and lock, then 'Auto retract' from the menu.
- 'Feature disabled': retract the rear jacks in manual, set the front to hitch height yourself, and start the next auto level nose high.
- After retract on Ground Control, pull the pin, push the inner legs up and make sure the pin latches.
Motorhome interlocks
Motorhome controllers check the chassis before they move a jack. When a pad won't turn on or won't auto level, prove each input before you suspect the controller.
| Input | What it wants | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Park brake | Set | Power Gear and Equalizer read a ground on the brake wire when it's set |
| Ignition | Run (HWH: on or accessory) | Power Gear wants 12 V on its ignition input |
| Engine | Running (Lippert motorhome hydraulic) | Keeps voltage up; auto needs 12.7 V |
| Transmission | Park, or neutral on a diesel | Power Gear's neutral safety input reads 12 V or ground depending on chassis |
Drive-away protection and air suspension
Release the park brake with the ignition in run and jacks down, and Lippert and Power Gear systems flash every light, sound the alarm and retract the jacks. Power Gear's emergency retract also fires on low fluid or a bad brake or neutral signal, so a flaky brake switch can retract a coach in the campground with nobody touching it. Pads time out after 4 minutes on Lippert motorhome and Power Gear hydraulic, 5 on Power Gear electric.
On air ride the bags have to come down or the jacks just stretch the suspension. HWH solenoid dump valves dump while you hold 'Dump' with the engine off; chassis pilot dump systems work engine on or off, and HWH auto mode dumps before it levels. Lippert lowers the bags at the start of a cycle and refills them on retract. Equalizer says start the engine and build air before retracting.
Jacks down warnings on the road
HWH's red jack lights come on at about 1/4 to 1/2 in of extension, and the dash light and buzzer run whenever the ignition is on with a jack out. Lippert and Equalizer watch retract pressure, so a warning while driving usually means a leak is letting a jack creep.
- Pull off safely and set the park brake. Equalizer says don't press 'Retract all' while moving.
- Walk the coach and look at every jack, hose and valve for fluid.
- No leak: pad on, press Retract, and wait for the light and alarm to stop. Look at the jacks again.
- Lippert: if it's leaking or keeps alarming, disconnect the pressure switch wires and go straight to a service center. Equalizer: a repeat on the same trip or within 24 hours needs service.
- In the shop: fluid level, then bleed (Equalizer calls trapped air the leading cause), then hoses, valves and cylinders. On Equalizer, slides retracted after the jacks can set a false alarm.
Ground, pads and support
Never lift the wheels off the ground to level, and never use the jacks to hold the coach for a tire change or for work underneath. Every maker here says it, and Lippert's service steps start with jack stands under the frame.
Lippert hydraulic jacks have a 9 in footpad on a ball swivel with a 12 in pad optional; Power Gear's shoe is 10 in. On soft ground, put load distribution pads under every jack and keep landing spots clear of holes and debris. The LCI Class C manual says past 1.0 degree front to rear you may need blocks or pads. Before it leaves, look at every jack: Lippert says confirm full retract by eye, and in cold weather check slides and steps too.
Careful: Never get under a coach held up only by its leveling jacks. Support it on stands under the frame first.
On the job
- Fifth wheel: chock, set the landing gear inner legs 4 to 5 in above ground (Ground Control), then drop the front.
- Start auto level with the front above level so hitch recognition saves a height.
- Motorhome pad won't turn on: park brake, ignition run, engine running, transmission in park or neutral, then the wire for each.
- Air ride: confirm the bags dump before leveling and air back up before driving.
- Jacks down alarm: fluid, bleed, then hoses, valves and cylinders.
- Soft ground: pads under every jack, wheels stay on the ground.
- Before release: walk around and see every jack fully up.
Numbers
- Ground Control landing gear: inner legs 4 to 5 in above ground before drop; 19.8125 in stroke
- Lippert motorhome auto level: needs 12.7 V; stops at 3.5 degrees out of level
- Pad timeout: 4 minutes (Lippert motorhome, Power Gear hydraulic); 5 minutes (Power Gear electric)
- Jacks down alarm: about 1,500 psi holding pressure (Lippert motorhome)
- HWH jack lights: on at about 1/4 to 1/2 in of extension
- Footpads: 9 in standard, 12 in optional (Lippert); 10 in shoe (Power Gear)
- Level Up motorhome jacks: 8,000 lb 15.00 in stroke; 14,000 lb 15.13 in; 20,000 lb 16.00 in
Shop tip
On a motorhome that 'won't turn on', set the brake hard and watch the park brake light. A corroded brake switch or a bad ground on that wire looks exactly like a dead controller.
Where this comes from
- Lippert, Ground Control 3.0 Troubleshooting Guide CCD-0001746, pp. 2-6; Ground Control 3.0 FW with OneControl Owner's Manual CCD-0001519, pp. 3-4, 11-12
- Lippert, Level-Up 5th Wheel Owner's Manual, CCD-0001531, pp. 2-7; Level-Up Aftermarket Manual Rev 09.15, p. 7
- Lippert, Level-Up Motorhome Owner's Manual CCD-0001535, pp. 4-9, 15-16; Troubleshooting Guide CCD-0001751, pp. 5-6; LCI Class C User Manual (Tiffin)
- Power Gear 82-L0506 Rev 0C (interlock inputs, 10 in shoe), 82-L0502 (interlocks, 4 minute shutoff), 82-L0368 (drive-away protection, 5 minute shutoff), TIP 0213
- HWH 625 Series Service Manual ML35963 (16JUN05), operation and warning light sections
- Equalizer Systems: EQ Smart-Level Quick Start QSSL001R7, Jacks Down LED Troubleshooting Guide (04-06-10), Basic Trouble Shooting Auto-Level